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Larry Aschebrook, Founder & MP @GSquared: How We Lost Money on Uber and Made Millions on Lyft

  • 🗓️ Date2025-06-16 | 🎙️ Show:20VC

G Squared’s late-stage model converts private-company access into DPI through small initial checks, concentration, repeated transactions, and disciplined five-to-seven-year liquidity. Spotify and Coursera validated the strategy, but 2020–2021 overpayment forced structured equity and another $300 million; AI exposure now favors leaders at “escape velocity.”

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  • Larry Aschebrook built G Squared around a five-to-seven-year liquidity strategy: convert late-stage private-company access into cash DPI. The portfolio “lands” with small checks, expands through repeated transactions, and concentrates 80%—hopefully 90%—of risk in about 10 companies. He calls TVPI and MOIC “fake numbers”; DPI “is the only thing you can use to buy food.”

  • Spotify validated the model and changed G Squared’s scale permanently. After six straight days of being denied a meeting in Stockholm, Aschebrook saw 25% Swedish penetration and learned the record labels were shareholders. Spotify then offered $150 million of stock, forcing him to assemble the money in 60 days and borrow the final $9 million from an early investor. G Squared ultimately put 40% of its $380 million third fund plus roughly $700 million of co-investment into Spotify, producing about $1 billion for LPs.

  • The realized record came from selling into demand, not perfectly forecasting eventual winners. G Squared owned 16% of Coursera, returned $800 million to LPs after selling around $36, and watched the stock later trade near $8; Lyft returned roughly 3x while Uber lost about 20 cents on the dollar, or approximately $50 million. “We made our multiple and went home and distributed the cash.”

  • The 2020 vintage broke when G Squared mistook a booming market and prior liquidity for proof that its judgment could not miss. It deployed about $900 million from early COVID through 2021, treated 12x LTM ARR-to-enterprise-value pricing for SaaS as conservative against public multiples near 25x, and later saw the comparable multiple fall toward 4x. Toast at $76 became Aschebrook’s “canary in the coal mine”: “We’ve overpaid for all of it.”

  • The rescue required admitting the error, raising another $300 million and buying protection while markets burned. G Squared sold inflated positions, lowered cost bases through secondaries, and negotiated structured equity paying a 25% IRR or 2.5x, whichever was greater; about 70% of the vintage became primary exposure, with structure on 40% of that. “As the house is on fire, we’re running in the front door with cash.”

  • His worst mistakes separate bad underwriting from bad behavior after underwriting. Theranos cost him personally a few million dollars to escape a binding agreement to buy roughly $50 million of stock; 23andMe could have produced about a 2x return when he began selling, but he chased a larger multiple and later said the position lost about $70 million. At Getir, the damaging decision was investing another $100 million rather than accepting the first loss: “You were dead man walking without knowing it.”

  • Co-investment now amplifies only positions the fund itself has already designated as core. Earlier vintages used co-investment at up to four times fund capital, and the 2020 vehicle even accommodated LP-requested thematic one-offs; Aschebrook said those experiences taught him that investors may blame the manager when a single-shot position fails. The current model restricts co-investment to conviction names such as Anthropic, Fanatics, Wiz, Databricks, Turo and Monzo.

  • On AI, Aschebrook would pay for leaders that have reached “escape velocity” rather than hunt for another foundation-model entrant. He sees little room beyond OpenAI and Anthropic, would buy Anthropic around the stated $61 billion valuation “all day long and twice on Sunday,” and agreed that it is an extraordinary business after Harry described a $350 billion-to-$1.5 trillion OpenAI scenario over five years. The hedge is picks-and-shovels exposure such as Lambda and Scale AI—and avoiding legacy companies that cannot rebuild AI into their DNA.

  • 🔗 Original source & video: Larry Aschebrook, Founder & MP @GSquared: How We Lost Money on Uber and Made Millions on Lyft

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