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Wartime Ethereum: The Case For ETH Going Much Higher

  • 🗓️ Date2026-07-10 | 🎙️ Show:The Edge Podcast

Ethereum’s case for moving “somewhere above $5,000” rests on stablecoins, RWA tokenization, and the agentic economy still “just beginning to take off,” not a fixed target. Credible neutrality, roughly 80% of ex-Bitcoin crypto capital, and a decade of uptime support institutional rails, while bank resistance and Clarity Act passage odds at 43% remain key risks.

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  • Gillen’s core call is directional, not a price target: he reports Jeff Kendrick’s view that ETH reaches $40,000 by 2030, but says he is not hung up on predictions. His own expectation is that ETH resolves “somewhere above $5,000” in the relatively near term; he adds, “This is not financial advice… I don’t know whether that’s going to happen.” The thesis stays live because stablecoins, RWA tokenization, and the agentic economy are all “just beginning to take off”; if Ethereum had already lost that market share, “I would have a different view of this.”

  • His rebuttal to David Hoffman’s ETH sale is the episode’s intellectual spine: “All of finance is downstream of faith. The whole system is based on faith. And Ethereum’s chief product is faith” — not trust-me-bro faith, but truth. The addressable market he attaches to that: ~$700 trillion of assets, with FX swaps alone doing $5–9 trillion of daily volume, all seeking a credibly neutral settlement layer — and ex-Bitcoin, ~80% of crypto capital already sits in the Ethereum ecosystem.

  • From his BlackRock vantage, “Wall Street absolutely gets it” — the fight is banks defending custody, not institutions doubting the tech. Asset managers as fiduciaries will use the best rails; banks like BNY Mellon with “over $50 trillion of assets under custody” are building their own consortiums instead, because “if you have $50 trillion under custody, you can fight it pretty hard in a lot of very creative ways.” Still: “the genie is not going back in the bottle.”

  • He flags “the largest institutional bull run in the history of digital assets at the same time that retail investors are checking out” — a bullish divergence but also a “troubling and worrisome gulf.” His worry is retail missing “the ground floor of the next century of finance” while speculative capital rotates through the “hot ball of money”; his posture is to endure 50% drawdowns with equanimity, while staying patient because “the money is made in the waiting.”

  • He has soured on the Clarity Act: it has been “gerrymandered” into “more of a bill to protect the banks than to help the digital asset space,” and a hostile future administration could turn it into “a quagmire, a Trojan horse.” He’s “not optimistic that this comes through anymore”; DeFi Dad notes Polymarket odds of 2026 passage have fallen to 43% from 75–80%.

  • The EF downsizing plus ETH Labs is, in his telling, “one of the most bullish moments we’ve seen in Ethereum’s recent history.” Gillen estimates BitMine and SharpLink together have roughly 7% of ETH supply and generate $400–500M a year in staking rewards; he describes their move as beginning to use some of that capital for ecosystem growth — potentially providing “a strategy not just for the success of Ethereum the network but for the success of the asset.”

  • The export controls on Anthropic’s Fable 5 are framed as AI’s Russia-SWIFT moment: once a government demonstrates willingness, not just capacity, to restrict or take away a technology, everyone starts pricing the need for a censorship-resistant alternative. With open-source models lagging frontier models by ~6 months and Aschenbrenner arguing AGI could be nationalized, Ethereum is “top of the pile” for decentralized builders and users seeking a “trustless state” and a long-term call option.

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